as the washington republican elite, folks like karl rove, efforts like what we see spelled out in "the new york times" today, to control them, to corral them to, steal them away from candidates they may like, towards candidates who they think the establishment deems to be more elective. i've heard some republicans talking about the potential backlash it to, where there would be nothing that would fire up tea party activists on the base more than thinking that karl rove is trying to big foot them in telling them who to elect in primaries and that may have the opposite effect of riling up strong sentiment on the conservative base and encouraging tea party candidates, potentially encouraging conservative donors to put in money to oppose what karl rove is trying to do. >> the fringiness. the fringies being upset by the establishment. really quick here, lori montgomery. boston globe reporting there might be a romney that gets in this senate race. do you think that's realistic or silliness? >> you know, i can't imagine that the romneys -- >> your tone says it all. >> are up for another one of these.